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July 29th, 2005
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Past Grief (What’s Past is Prologue 12/18)
“Are you all moved in?” I asked, as Scott opened the door to what had been Professor X’s office. I followed him over to the seating area by the fireplace, which was cold and devoid of wood, of course, in August. I noticed right away that the spot that had always been left empty for Charles’s wheelchair now had a large, upholstered armchair in it, the mate of the one across from it. I wondered idly if it had just been bought for this purpose.

“Not really,” he said, in response to the question I’d asked, sitting down in the big armchair and gesturing to me to sit down on the couch near him. He looked around a bit at his surroundings. “I’ve been avoiding moving in here, but I need the space. My office is too small for a lot of the meetings I hold. Shuttling back and forth was getting ridiculous.” He shrugged. “So, it may take a while to move all my stuff in, but I’m doing it. And I told Rogue she can reassign my office. My old office, I guess I should say.”

“I hope it was okay that I introduced Rick Kapell to you, yesterday.” I hesitated. “I wasn’t sure what to do. I thought of just pointing him out to you.”

“You did the right thing. I would have asked to be introduced if you’d pointed him out. I don’t want to act like we’re scared of him.” He smiled a kind of sour smile. “Of course I am scared of him, or at least of what he might find out, but I don’t want him to realize that. I was kind of alarmed that he was at the reception. I guess I should have seen that coming. The consequence of having it at the church, rather than here, where we could control who attended.”

“It made it more accessible to have the reception at the same place as the service.”

“Yes, that was the idea. Particularly accessible for the wheelchair crowd.” He thought some more. “It was probably the right decision, but it made for an odd atmosphere. It was a pretty public event that felt like a private party. I know the team and the kids all knew not to say anything at the reception that ought to stay intramural. I’m pretty sure Wendy impressed the same thing on the Outpost crew. Still, I wish I knew who was talking with Rick Kapell, or who was talking that he was overhearing.”

“Jean-Paul and I kept tabs on him. Between the two of us, we stayed with Rick the whole time. I don’t think we’ll like his write-up of the service or the reception, knowing the way his paper talks about mutants, but I don’t think he learned anything damaging.”

“Thanks for doing that. I’ll thank Jean-Paul, too.”

I hesitated before continuing. “There’s someone I do think you should talk to about Rick, although as I said, we were watching, and I’m quite sure Rick didn’t speak to him at the service. Simon Graves.”

“You’ve spoken to Simon?” I nodded. “I... I was surprised to see him at the reception. We haven’t spoken much in recent years, although he did send a condolence letter.”

“Yes, that’s how I came to contact him in the first place.”

Neither of us said anything for a minute. “How much did he tell you?” Scott asked, finally.

“Everything, I think. I don’t think he meant to. I don’t think he’d say anything to anyone else, but I suggest you talk to him, just to reinforce the need for discretion.”

Scott didn’t seem to take in my suggestion that he talk to Simon. “Adam,” he said. “When I met Simon... well, it was a very difficult time in my life. I was very young and I was on my own, and blind and...”

“Scott, don't. Please. You don’t need to explain yourself to me. I understand. And, besides, I’m only doing this for you. And the X-Men. I’m not judging you or... I don’t want to invade your privacy. Really, I don’t. I just found out what I could, and I’m telling you about it. I admire you immensely, I always have. For all you do and for who you are. Nothing I've found out changes that, lessens that, at all. All I'm doing is trying to find out what information is out there that could be damaging to your reputation, and that of the team, if it were published. So, I think you ought to speak to Simon.”

He nodded. “I will. And thank you.”

“I really don’t think he’s spoken to anyone about you besides me. I had his letter, and that gave me a kind of entrée others wouldn’t have.” I didn’t know how much more to say. “He thinks very highly of you, Scott. He’d read everything in the papers about you, in the wake of Charles’s death. Simon seems, well, very proud of your accomplishments. He’s not looking to hurt you. He feels he let you down, and I think that led him to be less discreet with me than he should have been.”

He nodded again. “I understand how that could happen.” Neither of us said anything for a minute and then he continued. “I think this is awkward for both of us. I very much appreciate you taking on this assignment. I guess I was hoping you wouldn’t really find anything out, though.” He smiled then, and I did, too. Then the smile turned into a frown and he asked, “Is that all you found out?”

“No, it’s not. This is hard stuff. I wasn’t even sure how much to tell you of what I did find out.”

“I want to know it all.”

“That’s what I eventually concluded. And, frankly, I’m more concerned about Rick Kapell finding information from before you came to New York than I am about him uncovering what you did when you got here. I’ve been to Indiana. I hope he hasn’t.” He didn’t say anything, although he blanched a bit. “That’s not something you’ve kept a secret – where you’re from. I don’t think anyone on the team is talking to him, but if they did...”

“I never say much about my childhood. I always just say I’m from ‘a small town in Indiana.’ It just seemed like something I could say, when there wasn’t a lot.” He sighed.

“I know. And I don’t know that Kapell will tumble to it, since he hasn’t heard you say that, like I have, but... well, there’s a discrepancy between what you say about your childhood and the official record. Or what seems to be the official record. Certainly everyone on the team knows that you came to live here when you were sixteen. It’s well known that you were Charles’s first student and the first X-Man. The kids know that, too. But you’ve got a birth certificate that says you were born in Vermont, and that your parents were Charles Xavier and someone named Maria Summers.”

He didn’t say anything at first. “We just made her up,” he said, finally. “It was so I could go to college. We were all applying – Jean, Warren, Hank and I. And they ask for parents’ names, and birth date, and... I don’t know. Charles just thought we should have a paper trail. And then later, I needed a passport, and a driver’s license and... It was useful to have a birth certificate that listed him as my father.”

“I figured it was something like that. It’s got your real birth date.”

“Yeah, we thought it was easier that way, if I didn’t have to remember a different birthday.”

“Makes sense. Like people who assume a new identity but use the same nickname or the same initials. I started looking through records in Indiana for that date. The name’s not exactly the same, but close enough.” I wasn’t sure what to say next. “I’ve been to Goodland. And a few other places. I think I know what happened. I’ve gotten access to records, including some that were supposed to have been sealed. I’ve spoken to your mother.”

He seemed to swallow hard. “How is she?”

“I can’t really say. We only spoke briefly. She... she wasn’t very friendly. And it didn’t help that I said I knew you.”

He nodded. “I gather she didn’t ask how I am.”

I shook my head. “I’m sorry.”

“Did she say anything about me?”

“She said that as far as she’s concerned, you died when you were fifteen.”

He nodded again, exhaling loudly. “Was Alex – my brother – there?”

“No.”

“So, you know what happened to my father?”

“I think so. Nobody there knows, I don’t think. Scott, I pieced it together. Most of it, anyway. I still have some questions, but I think I know basically what happened. I read the medical examiner’s report, trial transcripts, transcripts of police interviews with witnesses. I think you killed him accidentally, when you first came into your powers. Am I right?” He nodded. “I don’t think anyone knows that, though, or almost no one. The mutant phenomenon was fairly new. It happened really suddenly. And you were gone afterwards. I don’t think anyone put it together. The medical examiner might have suspected. He did point out anomalies, things that didn’t fit the case the police put together. But they had a confession and an easy explanation and I think the cops and the prosecutor just thought it would confuse things to bring it up.”

“A confession? Someone confessed to killing him?” He sounded completely bewildered. “Who?”

“Your brother.”

“Alex?” The anguish in his voice was worse than I’d imagined it would be, and I’d been imagining something really bad. “How? Why?”

“I don’t have all the answers. What do you remember, Scott? About what happened to your father, and about Alex. Maybe between your recollections and my research we can figure out what happened.”

He took a deep breath and then started talking. It felt like he lost sight of me being there, almost like he was talking to himself. “It was my fault. I shouldn’t have let it happen. I was late – at least a couple of hours. I was supposed to be helping my father repave the walkway up to our house and I stayed too long at Toby’s. I spent a lot of time at Toby’s house then. My father didn’t like it, didn’t like Toby, didn’t like me being friends with him. I don’t know if he suspected anything.”

“You and Toby were lovers?”

He shook his head. “No, nothing like that. He was a friend from school. I was in love with him, but he never knew. We never... did anything. I never said anything. But I don’t know. Maybe it showed. When you’re in love, when you’re young and in love, particularly – well, it’s hard not to let it show. He was all I thought about. I know I talked about him all the time, or did until my father started making veiled comments about Toby. He called him a ‘pretty boy.’ So maybe he had an inkling. I don’t know.

“But, anyway, he didn’t like me spending so much time with Toby, and he was really mad that day because I didn’t get home in time to work on the walkway. The paving stones were all stacked by the house and we had already pulled up the old ones. I was late and he was getting mad, and... I think he went looking through my stuff to find Toby’s number, to call me. But what he found...” He stopped talking and put his head in his hands.

“Letters. Love letters to Toby, right?” He nodded. “I've seen them. You never gave them to him?”

“No, he had no idea. Not until my father started in on me. Yelling at me as soon as Toby and I showed up on our bikes, calling me names. Alex was there. A couple of kids next door stopped to listen, too. It was this huge... spectacle or something. Major Summers and his faggot son. And he started reading the letters, out loud, right there. With everybody listening. Toby ran away, hands on his ears. I don’t think he saw what happened. But Alex, the neighbors...”

“I don’t think anyone but Alex was close enough to see what happened. At least the neighbors’ stories were confused, contradictory. The cops didn’t know what to make of what they said.”

“I had no idea. I didn’t know I was manifesting, didn’t know what was happening. My head hurt, my eyes hurt, but I didn’t know what it meant. I was trying not to cry, trying to just kind of will him to stop. And he wouldn’t. And I looked at him... I wanted him dead at that moment. I can’t deny that. But I didn’t kill him on purpose. I didn’t even know what happened. I could see a bright red light and I could just... feel something. Something I’d never felt before. Something coming out of my eyes. I didn’t know what it was, what it meant. But then he was on the ground, and his head... It was... I’d never seen anyone look like that.”

“I know. Strong concussive force. That’s what the medical examiner’s report said. But Scott, you could see him? After he fell? No optic blasts coming out then?”

“No. It was... intermittent. I didn’t even know that. I didn’t know anything.” He put his head in his hands again. “I haven’t thought about this for so long.” He thought some more. “He was dead, I was sure of it. I checked. No pulse, and the back of his head. It was, well there was no way someone could be alive with that kind of injury. I think the other kids ran away, maybe to get help. But Alex was there. And I looked at him and... Wait! I looked at Alex and saw the red light again, felt the blasts coming out, but nothing happened to him. And then I closed my eyes because I was scared it would happen again. And I ran.” He was lost in the memory again. “I opened them a few times, tentatively. I didn’t know how to function blind yet. But I learned quickly. And more and more it was happening, whatever it was. A few days had gone by and I was hundreds of miles away before I realized I was a mutant. By then, I knew I had to keep them closed all the time, because it was happening whenever I opened them.”

“How long did you keep your eyes closed, Scott?”

“Umm. I don’t know. I lost track of time for a while there. Over a year, anyway. When Charles found me, he didn’t know how to control it, either. So, I was still blind most of the time. But he used to take me outside. When nobody was around. And he’d tell me to just look up and open my eyes. And the blasts – they’d come out but they’d dissipate. Just into the air, not hitting anything. I’d never thought of that. Well, I couldn’t really do it in the city, I don’t think. I couldn’t have done it anywhere without someone to help me, to tell me when there was nothing above me. I didn’t have anyone to help me, not until Charles.” He closed his eyes, remembering. “Once Charles took me to the beach. A private beach, no one around, just so I could look at the ocean. It was so beautiful, just looking out at the water. And sometimes I could open them at his place in Vermont. It’s pretty remote. Nobody saw us. He’d tell me when it was safe to open my eyes. I cut down trees with my eyes. We used them for firewood. God, you can’t imagine what it felt like, to see after all that time.”

“It’s amazing to me you could keep them closed that long.”

“I had to.” He didn’t say anything for a while. “What happened with Alex?”

“He hit your father in the head. With one of the paving stones. They were heavy. The medical examiner’s report said he appeared to have been hit after he died, both because there wasn’t enough blood on the paving stone and because of where he hit him. Alex was much shorter than your father – it wasn’t possible that he could hit him on the head like that, with that angle, unless it was after he’d fallen. That’s what the ME’s report said, but the cops kind of ignored that and it didn’t come out at the trial. It was a closed courtroom; he was tried as a juvenile. No one was trying to solve it, you know. No one was looking to clear him. He was saying he did it. They didn’t look any further.”

“Why? Why did he say he did it? He had to have known it was me.”

“I don’t know, Scott. Maybe he was protecting you. Maybe he thought he did kill him. He didn’t say much about what happened.” I took out my notes. “Here. ‘I hit him with the stone. I hit him hard. He said bad stuff about my brother. I wanted him to stop.’ No one knew what had happened. It was an easy explanation.”

“What did they do to him?”

“He was in a juvenile detention center. Until he turned eighteen.”

“Do you know where he is now?”

“In prison.”

“For a crime he supposedly committed at thirteen?”

I shook my head. “No, he’s been in trouble with the law since. He never really settled down after he came out of the center. It doesn’t seem they provided him with much in the way of services when he got out. And he didn’t really have anywhere to go. His – your – mother wouldn’t take him back home. I think the only people he knew by that point were criminals. He’s been in and out of prison ever since. Some drug charges, armed robbery. The latest was kidnapping.”

“Kidnapping?”

“A hostage situation during a robbery.”

“It’s my fault this happened to him. He must hate me.”

“You didn’t know what happened to him?”

“No! I knew nothing about any of it. I should have. I should have found out. I was too scared to. And my brother suffered.”

“You were just a kid. You couldn’t have known what to do. You were in over your head.” He didn’t answer. “What did Charles know?”

“I don’t know. You can’t tell with him. Sometimes he turned out to know more than... I don’t think he knew this, though. I never told him any of it, just that I ran away from home. I said I couldn’t go back and I wouldn’t talk about it. I was so ashamed. And scared of what he’d think of me if he knew. I thought he might send me away. I couldn't go back on the street. I just couldn't." He stopped a minute, lost in memory. "I didn’t want to think about it. I didn’t think about it. So, I don't think he ever knew.” He stood up and paced back and forth for a minute. “I have to see Alex,” he said, finally. “You know where he is? What prison?”

“Yes. Terre Haute. I can give you the details.”

He stopped pacing and turned to me. “Good,” he said, in his confident Field Leader voice. “I’m going to go see him. I’ve got to get him out of there.”

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From:(Anonymous)
Date:July 29th, 2005 02:10 pm (UTC)

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Wow, Alex cares for his brother that much that he took the blame for Scott. This is just more burden for Scott to deal with damn. Hey I have to say I actually hate Scott the movie and comic version but your version makes him so real and that what I love about your stories.

Something got me thinking Scott looked at Alex and felt the beam come out when he was looking at Alex, it is a known fact in the X-Men universre that relatives powers tend to not have an effect on one another especially powers that are so similar.

Glad that Adam told Scott the full story and he and J-P working together to watch Rick, if they don't want to get back together then I'm an ass.

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From:mofic
Date:July 29th, 2005 02:51 pm (UTC)

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Hey I have to say I actually hate Scott the movie and comic version but your version makes him so real and that what I love about your stories.

Thanks. That's a lovely thing to say. I really like it when the Scott-haters like my guy :-) or like my stories anyway. There are lots of people out there with really strong feelings about Scott Summers, judging by my email. The funniest one I got was in response to Canadian Nights, in which there's a little side bar conversation between Jean and Scott where he's making fun of the musical "Cats" and making fun of her for liking it. Someone wrote to me that she hates Scott Summers and loves Cats, but she still likes my stories :-).

What don't you like about him in the comics and movies, btw? What I didn't like about him in the movies was that there wasn't enough of him! But I came to feel good about his relative absence, because it gave me more room to develop him as I see fit, yk? I just think he's such a fascinating character and I love to see how different writers deal with him. We all grapple in one way or another with "How did he get to be like that?"

Something got me thinking Scott looked at Alex and felt the beam come out when he was looking at Alex, it is a known fact in the X-Men universre that relatives powers tend to not have an effect on one another especially powers that are so similar.

Yeah, that's a lot of why I wanted to write Havok. I wanted to use that comic book concept of their powers not affecting each other. I think it's got great emotional and symbolic potential. At some point I'd like to do a series that's focussed on the Summers brothers and their relationship. I found writing about them in this one really emotionally affecting.
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Date:July 29th, 2005 03:46 pm (UTC)

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"What I didn't like about him in the movies was that there wasn't enough of him!"

Grrr!! I totally agree with you. But nontheless, I like your Scott as well. As for the Comic, I didn't really read the comic so I guess I wouldn't be able to say much. But anyway from what I hear and see, there really are so many who hate Scott, yet some do love him, so, this is just some kind of opinion thing. Sometimes I'd wonder, do I see a character's virtue and then love him/her? or do I love him/her first and then see his/her virtue? Often I feel that I'd fall into the latter category. Really not rational, but I just can't help it, so I often end up liking characters that many hates. To think about this it is kind of interesting also, how people's feeling and opinions differ.


"But I came to feel good about his relative absence, because it gave me more room to develop him as I see fit, yk?"

This is absolutely true. Among the fanfic writers in my country, they used to say that fanfic is a dance with shackles on, more detailed a character is described in the original story, the more shackles you have to wear. And with those brief appearance, people can develop many stories and theories for the absent period, this will be fascinating. But however, I still hope I can see more of him in X-men 3. *Giggles*

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From:mofic
Date:July 29th, 2005 05:06 pm (UTC)

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Among the fanfic writers in my country, they used to say that fanfic is a dance with shackles on,

Great metaphor! And that's part of the fun of writing fanfic, I think. The challenge of dancing with those shackles is a whole lot of what makes it interesting.

What country are you from, Flare?
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Date:July 29th, 2005 04:00 pm (UTC)

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What I hate about movie and comic version of Scott is that no pun intended he is extremely anal. Mr. Perfectionist, he is never flustered or driven by his emotions when in battle. In the movie the only real emotion he displayed was when Jean died. In the comic lately the writers are making him more loose showing his faults which could be because he died and came back so he has a whole new perspective in life even Logan was scared of him at one point. Or it could be that the writers have broken up the longest going relationship in X-Men Jean & Scott for Scott & Emma (White Queen). Apparently she challenges him where Jean wouldn't because of her upbrining from her parents and also the professor, but Emma tends to not have such an astute moral code.

Still I don't like him in either medium but I have to live with him.

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From:mofic
Date:July 29th, 2005 05:04 pm (UTC)

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Still I don't like him in either medium but I have to live with him.

LOL! Well, he certainly is a control freak. That's his main canonical characteristic - stays in control, obsessed with doing things the right way. I find that intriguing, as may be obvious :-). It makes me wonder what's underneath all that control.

I actually think he shows a pretty good range of emotion in the movies, with the small part they give him. I think there's a real clear affection between him and Xavier, animosity (but, eventually an at least grudging appreciation) between him and Logan, flashes of humor. I totally can't see Scott/Jean in the movies, though. The only time he seems to have strong feelings about her is when she's in danger or when she dies. Other than that, their relationship seems so blah... In the comics, I've found them more credible as a couple.

The whole Scott/Emma thing makes me crazy. I just can't stand the idea of them together! I don't think of myself as a shipper and generally think I don't care one way or another who's with whom - it's all in how it's handled. But obviously I don't always feel that way, because the whole idea of Scott and Emma makes me ill.

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Date:July 29th, 2005 06:46 pm (UTC)

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Yeah that's right Scott/Emma gross me out too. I don't know if it's because I am totally bias when it comes to Jean. I just love her character in the comics she exudes strength and she doesn't take crap from anyone especially from Scott.

Jean speaks her mind, without the need of the whole telepathic powers whereas Emma is more proned to depend on her powers to know what Scott wants, which makes me wonder why would he date someone who has know qualms about reading his thoughts without his permission.

Everyone out there now says his relationship with Emma is more fun and much better than Jean/Scott, but what a lot of people need to understand the most time they had to be together was in their younger years. Since then it's one apocalyptic event after the other, so truly the relationship between them wasn't explored deeply after the X-Men was just formed. Plus with Jean's continuous death and rebirth (Phoenix) issues who can find time explore each other. By the time he has mourned her she come back from the dead, so he keeps throwing himself back into her arms and vice-versa.

So for those who like the Scott/Emma relationship because it's more wild and passionate, need to take note that the writers are trying to develop and let people understand S/E relationship more now than back in the past when J/S were together where they were facing life and death situations every single second without much breathing room.

So, what I'm saying is like a political campaign, they are trying to sell us Scott & Emma more than Scott & Jean. Although technically S/J can't happen right now since Jean is dead again.

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From:mofic
Date:July 29th, 2005 10:12 pm (UTC)

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Although technically S/J can't happen right now since Jean is dead again.

LOL! A statement that only makes sense to a comic book reader.

I think Scott/Jean has great potential but I agree that it's often been clumsily executed in the comics. I like them as a couple in fanfic much better often. Have you read any of minisinoo's fiction? She usually writes Scott/Jean and writes them as a really interesting and multi-faceted relationship.
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Date:July 29th, 2005 10:45 pm (UTC)

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Actually I have read a good portion of Minisinoo fiction's as well written as your fics. If the comics were written like that 'sans' the sex I believe their relationship would be one for the books.

Yeah I'm a comic book reader. Stopped for a while after Jean died a year back started up again when I thought Jean was coming back. She did revive and died twice in that ltd edition 5 part series.

I'm sorry I rant when it's about Jean. Her character as an individual in the comic grew well but her relationship with Scott was like you said 'clumsily executed'.

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From:mofic
Date:July 29th, 2005 11:30 pm (UTC)

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Have you read Ultimate X-Men? I recently got the first volume on Digital Comic Books (which is quite cool) and really liked it. I thought both Scott and Jean were really interesting. And there's an appeal to starting from scratch, in a sense, just because you have to believe more than three impossible things before breakfast to believe in Marvel continuity...
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From:eveningblue
Date:July 30th, 2005 12:39 am (UTC)

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What is Digital Comic Books?
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From:mofic
Date:July 30th, 2005 01:13 pm (UTC)

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I've only seen the one, but I really liked it. It's a DVD version of a comic book. There are voiceovers saying all the dialogue as you look at the pictures, and they do some stuff with transitions from one scene to the other.

Here's from the promotional material:

Termed a Digital Comic Book (DCB) this DVD product is a cross platform for comic books, videogame consoles, and DVD players. A DCB combines the visual art and storytelling ability of published comic books with professional voice-overs, original music, vivid stunning effects and high-end sound design to create a unique DVD product on par with a major motion picture release.
Each DCB contains a five to eight issue comic story-arc and at half the cost of the printed version, the value speaks for itself. Plenty of extra material is packed in as well: trailers, character biographies, original sketches, a documentary about how comics are made, and bonus chapters (including classic first appearances of the main characters). This all adds up to over 100 minutes of viewable material per DCB. Viewable on DVD, Playstation2, Xbox, MacOS 9.2, and PC.

Two of the best-known comic book publishers in the world, Marvel and CrossGen, have provided their most popular properties to these DCB. Character titles include: the Incredible Hulk, Ultimate X-Men, Daredevil, Wolverine, Negation, Sojourn, and Way of the Rat.

Digital Comic Books have received numerous accolades from the press and outstanding reviews praising this entertaining product.

I got it for free with Amazon points, but I think it might have been worth paying for, even :-).
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From:eveningblue
Date:July 30th, 2005 01:49 pm (UTC)

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Huh. Interesting--thanks for the info.

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Date:August 8th, 2005 05:51 pm (UTC)

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I've read the Ultimate X-Men series. It's the best X-Men comics out now and has been for the past few years. They got S/J realtionship down pat and like the degree of depth of characters who may I say aren't the most perfect people.

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From:eveningblue
Date:July 29th, 2005 11:18 pm (UTC)

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The whole Scott/Emma thing makes me crazy. I just can't stand the idea of them together! I don't think of myself as a shipper and generally think I don't care one way or another who's with whom - it's all in how it's handled. But obviously I don't always feel that way, because the whole idea of Scott and Emma makes me ill.

I have only read two of the comics so far, but from one of them (Astonishing XMen: Gifted), I'd have to say Logan agrees with you.

there is a great scene at the very beginning of the story where Scott and Emma are in bed and Logan comes bursting into the room.

"What stage of grieving is this?" he asks. "Denial?"

then he and Scott have an enormous fight, right there in the school. the kids think it's cool that the teachers are always getting into fights.


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From:mofic
Date:July 29th, 2005 11:20 pm (UTC)

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Yeah, Doran showed me that one. Pretty funny. I loved how Logan is kind of perched on the bed when he says that.
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From:eveningblue
Date:July 30th, 2005 12:38 am (UTC)

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I loved how Logan is kind of perched on the bed when he says that.

I know--isn't that great? The writing and art in that comic are soooo good; I had no idea a comic book could be so gorgeous and well-written. I'm trying to figure out a way to squeeze it into my syllabus. :-)

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Date:July 29th, 2005 11:25 pm (UTC)

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"What stage of grieving is this?" he asks. "Denial?"


Well I belive Jean has been dead for a while now. Scott has been through countless of Jean's death. Emma well let's put it this way she wasn't fond of Jean after the whole dark phoenix thing, she definately wasn't after Jean more or less tried to kill her and she definately doesn't like the fact that Scott atill has mind blowing dreams of Jean AKA Sex every now and then. So really the grieving process is kind old for Scott and Emma doesn't really care one even though she and Jean share a common love interest.

Plus these artist and writers lately show Emma and Scott in bed more than them actually doing stuff at the school or going on missions lately. So hell yeah they can spend time having relations unlike Scott and Jean.

Vision
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From:comnena39
Date:July 30th, 2005 02:23 am (UTC)
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Hello,
I have been hunting around and reading snippets of Scott/ Logan fic on and off for a couple of months now (my main fanfic obsession at the moment is Jack/Daniel from Stargate: SG-1) but I found so many of them short and PWP types or lacking characterisation or... just lesser in both quality and quantity then I had been expecting!

You (and a couple of other writer I have found via http://www.dreamwater.org/scottsummers/fanfiction/scottlogan.html
have restored my faith in X-men fanfic. I actually only started reading your stories two days ago... while SUPPOSEDLY working on a preliminary draft of a chapter for my PhD. And here I am all caught up!

I like Scott and Logan as you portray them, I can't comment on the canon aspects as I only know the movies - but as people and characters I like them. They are believable, interesting and consistent.

I ADORE Jean-Paul and Adam, if they don't get back together I will be weeping all over my keyboard. I especially like the fact that they each have feelings of insecurity and inadequacy about what they bring to the relationship. Someone needs to point out that it is those very differences that make them work... (although that never works when you try it in real life, people don't like being told their being silly or wrong about love... or anything really!)
I have no issuses about OC's unless it seems like they are absolute Mary-Sues. And a further example of how bad it can be when a writer writes herself into her books: Laurell K. Hamilton, vampire novelist. Excellent concept, cool characters, the heroine looks a lot like her, and now seems to have become a Mary-sue in the 'living out my fantasy' kinda way.

I really like the set up, with the Canada-America exchange, the linking of homosexuality and being a mutant (and religion, which comes up a couple of times).
I also enjoy the fact that we get to follow all of these people over such a long time, and yet their characters remain realistic and consistent.
The regular changes in POV are great as well, especially as even though it is always first person ( and you don't put their name above the section to indicate who's talking) you manage to find subtle and realistic ways of letting the reader know whose POV it is.

Oh, and one final point, I am very happy to read an X-men story whith none of them being nominated as the 'bad' guy. A regular feature in all fandoms I read and one I really don't like, so thank you for this huge, multifaceted, enjoyable X-men 'verse where they really are a team.
Going to go away and shut up now!
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From:mofic
Date:July 30th, 2005 01:25 pm (UTC)
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Thanks for the lovely comments. Do you really mean you read all my stories (i.e. from I Know What You Are on) in two days, or just the ones on lj? Because if the former, that's a whole lot of reading! If the latter, well there's more where those came from :-).

I'm glad you've known who's talking in the first person pieces. I realize I make the reader work that way :-). In a few cases I do mean to fool the reader for a couple of lines (like in the beginning of the first person Jake one in this series) but mostly I want it to be clear. It's one of my standard questions for betas - did you know who the "I" was?

I too like Jean-Paul and Adam as a couple. I think in many ways they are both at their best when they're together. I think they support each other and challenge each other and really both want to be better people for each other. I believe those are all ways that being in a couple can be good for people. I think they are just wonderful as lovers and partners and parents. But I also think that even the most brilliant couples can have things happen to them that make it impossible for them to continue together. And I agree that someone (even the author :-)) telling them they should be together doesn't work. If they get back together, it will be because they come to the conclusion that they can overcome their difficulties, not because anyone tells them they ought to.

I definitely don't see any of the X-Men as the bad guy, so I'm glad that comes through. I do have some good feelings for all my characters. I even like Rick a bit :-).

What are you getting your PhD in? I'm sorry if my fanfic interfered with your scholarly pursuits...
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From:comnena39
Date:August 2nd, 2005 04:32 pm (UTC)

Sorry, I was away over the weekend...

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But to belatedly answer your feedback to my feedback... this could run awhile, yeah?

Yes I have read all the stories from 'I know What You Are On'; I'm a read-aholic (the official term is bibliophile, but I like mine better!), and work is going well I read fanfic... which then leads to me not going back to work!

My PhD is in medieval history, specifically the Anglo-Norman period, centering on the Norman Conquest of England in 1066. And when it is going well even fanfic can't interrupt it, when it isn't... I'd read the back of cereal packets, or the inserts into magazines before I would try and write for it! So this 'verse is a much better way of avoiding my mental blankness.

Anyway, now that I am back online I shall go get caught up.
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From:mofic
Date:August 2nd, 2005 04:54 pm (UTC)

Re: Sorry, I was away over the weekend...

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Yes I have read all the stories from 'I know What You Are On'; I'm a read-aholic (the official term is bibliophile, but I like mine better!), and work is going well I read fanfic... which then leads to me not going back to work!

Fanfic as work avoidance.

My PhD is in medieval history, specifically the Anglo-Norman period, centering on the Norman Conquest of England in 1066.
Cool. And will you (or do you) teach history? I guess you don't get a PhD in medieval history and then join a big Medieval History firm, eh?


And when it is going well even fanfic can't interrupt it, when it isn't... I'd read the back of cereal packets, or the inserts into magazines before I would try and write for it! So this 'verse is a much better way of avoiding my mental blankness.

I'm honoured to think my stories are preferable to cereal boxes :-). I hope you had a nice weekend away!



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