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June 15th, 2005
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Identity, Orientation, Behavior and Slash

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Date:June 17th, 2005 11:26 am (UTC)

Re: Identity etc.

Well, I think my comment probably came off as more cranky than I feel, but I do think assuming that everyone is beyond these kinds of self-identification with both concepts and groups is in some sense quite patronizing. "Do people do that anymore?" does tend to sound superior, even if it was intended to be just a reminder to yourself that there's a different POV. And I don't think noticing benefits of identity labeling in the country as a whole is what I'm talking about missing.

What I said is that when you shut down discussion you never get the opportunity to hear what the individual is getting out of feelings of group membership or identification with a concept like "lesbian" or "Jew". I also think you'd be much less likely to hear "you can't understand... you don't have the experience" if you indicate a willingness to listen to others' experiences and understanding of what it means to them to be a Jew, gay, an urbanite or whatever.

You may well be willing, but taking a stand that identity claiming is passe or that feelings of identity are just "labeling" gives the impression imo that you aren't. Therefore it makes it less likely that people will open up about what it means to them.

I'll use my Adam icon since he claims "Jew" and "gay" and "urbanite" within his identity...
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