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Is M/M Slash Like Pseudo-Lesbian Porn Produced for Straight Men? - Mo's Journal
January 22nd, 2009
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Is M/M Slash Like Pseudo-Lesbian Porn Produced for Straight Men?

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From:lydiabell
Date:January 29th, 2009 07:23 pm (UTC)
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In the kind of m/m slash I like, it matters that it's these two particular men. There's something about them that makes the author put them together -- usually it's chemistry of some kind in canon, but even if the characters have never met, there's something about their personalities that makes the author think they would have chemistry.

That's not universal -- some slash isn't about the characters at all, but is just porn about the two hottest bodies on the screen. But lots of slash is about the particular characters, and comes out of an affinity that the author has for them. In pseudo-lesbian commercial porn for men, it's never about the female characters. They're always bodies.

(Reading up, I see that you did make this point briefly and I glossed over it. Oh well. :)

That's the main difference for me. I find a lot of your other generalizations to be true for me as well (though not the feminization one). I don't have any problem with reading het or f/f, but I have found that I have a barrier to writing explicit sex involving a woman -- it feels like TMI. It's hard for me to divorce myself and my sexual likes and dislikes from the character's self and preferences.

Edited at 2009-01-29 07:28 pm (UTC)
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From:mofic
Date:January 29th, 2009 07:47 pm (UTC)
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The thing about characters - yes, it was one of my bullet points, but it's worth talking about more. A subject of endless discussion in slash fandom is what makes two characters slashable. And it so often is about the characters. Not always, as is demonstrated by people who follow particular *actors* from one movie or show to another and by RPS, but often it really is about the characters and how they are presented in the source text much more than about the two hottest bodies on screen, as you say.

There's not really a sense of character in straight-oriented porn afaict. The idea of men discussing whether two women are slashable seems completely unlikely. I think that's related, though, to a preference for text over pictures. Or, more accurately, I think most men have a preference for visuals and most women have a preference for story and characters. Truly, if by some miracle :-) a slash writer could get the canonical actors to act out her stories and have them filmed slashfen would be in heaven! I don't think a preference for fanfic is because - for most women - the reader would rather read about these characters than see them but because it's the way she gets the stories she wants with the characters she loves.

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From:elspethdixon
Date:January 31st, 2009 01:34 am (UTC)
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In the kind of m/m slash I like, it matters that it's these two particular men.

Yes. This. It matters that it's two particular people with het, for me, too -- femmeslash is the only one of the three where I can properly appreciate pure porn that's just about hot people having sex and nothing else.

The sex alone isn't enough -- I want a reason why I should care that these two people are having sex, whether it's a pre-existing investment in at least one of the characters (the thing that makes fanfic PWPs fun), or because the sex comes surrounded by a forty-page story with plot and melodrama and character & relationship arcs.
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