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January 22nd, 2009
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Is M/M Slash Like Pseudo-Lesbian Porn Produced for Straight Men?

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From:ysgawen
Date:January 31st, 2009 03:44 am (UTC)
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I think what you're saying is largely factually correct, but it seems to me to point out the similarities, rather than the differences. About the only real difference seems to be that lesbian porn is readily commercially available, whereas slash aimed at female writers needs to be created by those who have an interest in it, simply because no-one else is bothering to sell it.

Personally, I'll never understand the appeal of either and both, to me, objectify either lesbians or gay men (or bisexuals of either sex) and hijack their sexuality for entertainment or arousal.

Like you, I'm disturbed by those who find seeing their own gender represented disgusting. Unlike you, I don't see them as coming from completely different feelings. With both, there is clearly a degree of insecurity about their sexuality or perceived sexuality and, with both, I believe, a discomfort with members of their own gender. Both men and women say at times that they feel threatened by members of their own gender who are better endowed or more attractive or simply better at sex.

One interesting difference I have noticed is that men tend to be more open about both their use of lesbian porn and the reasons for it, whereas women tend to be worried about people finding out that they read or write slash and tend to want to rationalise it a lot more. This probably goes along with women's attitude to porn in general.
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From:ifyouweremine
Date:January 31st, 2009 11:23 am (UTC)
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Personally, I'll never understand the appeal of either and both, to me, objectify either lesbians or gay men (or bisexuals of either sex) and hijack their sexuality for entertainment or arousal.

I disagree with this statement because it seems to me to deny the validity of sexual fantasy/expression/exploration.

Okay, let’s start with this—do you think that stories about heterosexual romances exploit heterosexual people in the same way stories about gay, lesbian, and bisexual romances exploit gays, lesbians, and bisexuals? Can a straight person only write about straight people having sex, or is that debasing to the characters too?

Or let’s look at it this way:

I am a 17 year old bisexual girl writing a story about Draco Malfoy fucking Harry Potter in a magical castle in England. Am I morally repugnant for manipulating these fictional characters in a way that titillates me?

I am a 13 year old straight boy jerking off to the picture of Miss December from the Playboy I found hidden under my brother’s bed. Am I exploiting her?

I am a 32 year old lesbian watching Luke and Noah kiss on As The World Turns. Am I wrong for liking that? Are the writers wrong for writing it? Are the actors wrong for acting it out?

What I’m getting at is this: fantasy is good. It’s healthy. It’s safe. Fantasy lets people explore who they are and what they like and dislike in an environment that cannot hurt or judge them. We all do it, and that's okay.



men tend to be more open about both their use of lesbian porn and the reasons for it, whereas women tend to be worried about people finding out that they read or write slash and tend to want to rationalise it a lot more. This probably goes along with women's attitude to porn in general.

Men are more open about liking lesbian porn than women are about liking slash because it’s more socially acceptable for a man to express sexual want than it is for a woman.
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