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Recent Reading: Whistling Vivaldi by Claude M. Steele and Hung by Scott Poulson-Bryant - Mo's Journal
August 15th, 2010
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Recent Reading: Whistling Vivaldi by Claude M. Steele and Hung by Scott Poulson-Bryant

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From:talktooloose
Date:August 15th, 2010 06:17 pm (UTC)
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the whole issue around penis size and erase is fascinating and often baffling. In my reasonably wide (v
And long) experience, black cocks are larger on average, and Asian dicks smaller. my father actually heard someone from the UN who was distributing condoms in developing nations say that they do need more large ones for Africa and more small ones for Asia. on average.

I find people who say this is a myth based on the idea of the hyper-sexualized black man to be contrary and PC. Surely fighting racism doesn't mean denying racial features. "I'm not white!" insisted Snakes very white colleague. I'm more pink or light tan!"

I would like to read the book. Are there, ahem, example pictures?
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From:mofic
Date:August 15th, 2010 09:53 pm (UTC)
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the whole issue around penis size and erase is fascinating and often baffling.

I was baffled by that sentence until I decided that "erase" was meant to be "race." Damn voice input software never gets that right.

Anyway, I don't think that anyone is saying it's a myth out of PC feelings (a term I hate, btw). I think it's a stereotype, and people don't know whether it's based on reality or not. FWIW, Poulson-Bryant cites studies saying that it is true (presumably using a somewhat larger and more random sample than your personal one), albeit with small differences. But to say that it's true that black men have bigger dicks than white men only means that on average that's true, not in the case of a particular penis. Race is socially constructed, after all, and although in general (to use the most obvious difference) people deemed black in the US have darker skin than people deemed white, there are exceptions to that rule.

Another physical difference that's got some attention lately is that on average black men have longer legs and shorter torsos than white men. Long legs/short torsos are better for speed on land and long torsos/short legs are better for speed in the water and the authors of a recent paper argue that that is part of why men's swimming speed champions are more often white and men's track champions more often black. But it doesn't say anything about how two individual men - one white and one black - will do in a race, on land or in the water.

In any event, what the book is about is how the stereotype and the culture interact and how it affects how men in our society - particularly black men, particularly the author and the men he talks to - feel about their penises. And it's quite interesting and manages to have a lot of self-awareness, something often surprisingly lacking in memoir. And sorry, no example illustrations.

Edited at 2010-08-16 01:51 am (UTC)
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From:talktooloose
Date:August 17th, 2010 09:45 pm (UTC)
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No, not voice input, iPad input. I have a bluetooth keyboard, but I was using the onboard keyboard where you often make mistakes. Then the OS guesses what you meant. I didn't proofread well.

Actually, my whole response was intellectually sloppy.

Interesting to think about groups and individuals. The ability to see someone as an individual AND as a member of various groups is a necessary one, I think. We need both types of information to interact socially. The problems arise when we confuse these two modes or start denying the validity of one or the other.

As for example illustrations... That's okay. That's why they built the 'Net.
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From:mofic
Date:August 17th, 2010 11:15 pm (UTC)
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How do you like your iPad?

You might like the Steele book. He talks a lot about the various groups people identify with and what he calls "identity contingencies." They're the results of identifying or being identified as part of a group and they can be positive, negative, or neutral.
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