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January 21st, 2007
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Circumcision in Real Life and in Slash

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From:eveningblue
Date:January 21st, 2007 11:10 pm (UTC)
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Hmmm, I don't even know how I would write a scene differently if it included uncircumcised, as opposed to circumcised, men. I've had sex with both and I haven't noticed any big difference. I mean, I guess you could add some description of the foreskin, but I don't find the word "foreskin" terribly erotic. I think "cock" is hotter and I guess my preference would just be to stick with it and not get all clinical and specific.

Interesting post, though. I just read in the paper last week about how circumcision was seen as almost better than a (in the future, possible) vaccination for HIV for men in Africa.
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From:mofic
Date:January 22nd, 2007 12:26 am (UTC)
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Well, first of all I do think that the author ought to know a lot more about the characters than she necessarily writes into each (or any) scene. And I'd include for someone writing explicit sex, what the characters' genitals look like as something to know.

I also think it's possible to write sex scenes that are specific without being clinical. A foreskin can be referred to much as the head of the cock is or the shaft or talking about balls. It can be referred to in terms of how the owner of the foreskin feels to have it played with, or how it feels or tastes to his lover.

Also, some men (and women, too, but since I write slash I think in terms of men) have strong sexual preferences for uncut or cut, and that can come up in the narrative. Someone might speculate before he has sex with a man he's interested in or he might (depending upon how they know each other) see him naked in a locker room and know whether he's circumcised or not, and have feelings (positive or negative) about that.

In What's Past is Prologue, for example, I have Jean-Paul picking men up in gay bars for sex in the back room. He meets a guy and says that he's looking for someone who wants to suck his cock, and the guy replies "Cut or uncut?" To which J-P answers something like "Un-. Does that count for me or against me with you?" I think that's a pretty realistic exchange, but it's not a clinical one.

On the other subject, of course since we don't know how effective a vaccine would be it's all speculation, but circumcision is really remarkably effective, from a public health POV. Whether it will be adopted as general practice remains to be seen, though. It's sooooo culture based. I've actually been very surprised by how accepted it's been in the clinical trials.
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From:eveningblue
Date:January 22nd, 2007 01:20 am (UTC)
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I guess I'd really never given it much thought, maybe because the characters I've dealt with were either clearly one or the other, and I never really had to figure out which they'd be.

Also, I think you write much more realistic gay sex than most slash I've read. For instance, that Jean-Paul scene you mention would almost never happen in most of the slash I've read. It's one of the reasons I like your stories so much.

I'd love to see more realistic slash, but most slash is just romance with two boys.

So I agree with you that you can have realistic, hot scenes involving circumcision without them being clinical, but usually slash is romantic, not realistic. Maybe that's because most of the slash I read involves OTPs, and your really is not like that. Hmmm. I'll have to think more about this.
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