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January 22nd, 2007
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What Does It Mean to Say that Slash is (or isn't) Subversive?

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From:blue_braces
Date:January 23rd, 2007 09:09 am (UTC)
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Sorry, I got a call before I could leave a comment.

I only answered "she should appear on lj but red-faced" because I thought I ought to mix up the answers on that question. ;D I actually think it's a great poll.

For the first question, I agree with tathren comments about how slash subverts conventions of production and consumption.
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From:mofic
Date:January 23rd, 2007 12:35 pm (UTC)
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More so than other forms of fanfic?
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From:executrix
Date:January 23rd, 2007 01:20 pm (UTC)
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mofic asked: more so than other forms of fanfic?
I'd say yes, but it's a matter of degree rather than kind. A UC shipper of a het couple has a lot more chance of seeing zir pairing become canon than a slash shipper does.

But I agree that, for example, all football players are athletes but not all athletes are football players, and a lot of sloppy analysis occurs when attributing something to football-playerness when in fact it applies to all athletes.
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From:blue_braces
Date:January 23rd, 2007 08:25 pm (UTC)
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Potentially, yes. I agree with tathren that it's not only the act of writing/reading fanfic that may be subversive of consumer culture, but also the topics being written about.

BTW, I also agree that tathren's point about subverting the dominant reading, potentially along with the author is important to consider in a question of "is slash subversive". And as he notes, this type of subversion specifically links slash to a long history of queer (sub)texts.
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