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January 22nd, 2007
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What Does It Mean to Say that Slash is (or isn't) Subversive?

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From:mofic
Date:January 24th, 2007 12:00 am (UTC)
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I hate the boys-only-playground kind of slash, as you call it. I call it the "Everyone's Gay" phenomenon. But I hate it for different reasons. I hate it because it's unrealistic. Most people are straight in real life, and the same is true in my fiction, although I focus on the m/m couples. But I do write about the heterosexual relationships and even sometimes show *gasp* heterosexuals having sex. I tend not to write lesbian sex because it feels too personal. I have done it, but in very small amounts and very vanilla, more to round out the character set than anything else.

I actually don't think slash objectifies men, or at least not the slash I like to read and write. I think fully realized sexually active male characters are the antithesis of objectification.

So my guess is you and I have really different tastes in slash...
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From:thirdblindmouse
Date:January 24th, 2007 12:46 am (UTC)
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So my guess is you and I have really different tastes in slash...

In what sense do you mean? Besides differing fandoms, of course.
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From:mofic
Date:January 24th, 2007 01:25 am (UTC)
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Just that you said you like the idea of objectification of men for a change, and I am interested in slash that doesn't objectify. I joke sometimes and call what I write "mutant porn" but I don't actually think it's porn at all. I like character driven fiction where the sex has a real function in the story - exploring a theme, illuminating a character or a relationship, advancing the plot, etc. I'm just guessing - based on the little that you said - that you like more of a sex-for-sex's-sake slash. But maybe I misunderstood.
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From:thirdblindmouse
Date:January 24th, 2007 02:18 am (UTC)
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By objectifying men, I merely meant that the men are there to be ogled for a change, not the women. I suppose it could equally apply to het. It's the general fandom-as-woman's-place that makes that true. And I'm not much interested in sex in or out of fic, so PWPs are lost on me.
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