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What Does It Mean to Say that Slash is (or isn't) Subversive? - Mo's Journal
January 22nd, 2007
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What Does It Mean to Say that Slash is (or isn't) Subversive?

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From:galadhir
Date:January 24th, 2007 07:02 pm (UTC)

Re: here from metafandom

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Hm, developing an interest in sex acts you hadn't heard of before seems to me to be just an inevitable result of having been given more information. You learn about new things, and it's natural to think about them - and if they sound like fun to try them out. It's certainly educational, but I don't know about subversive :)

As far as MPreg goes, I first encountered that in a published book (Called 'Aristoi', in which the hero's boyfriend is modified by nano technology in order to become pregnant. The book is by a man (or at least, the author has a male name.) That was quite a while before I discovered fandom. I thought it was an interesting concept, but it was science fiction, so why not? Fan fic MPreg, I tend to feel is a bit like male-rape fic - a way of exploring a scary concept while keeping it at arm's length.

Tentacle porn :) We have it in PotC fandom too. But I don't think it's *that* out there. It seems to me to share inspiration with things like snake dancers and women being violated by aliens and even tree branches in movies. It's the phallic shape, I guess ;) I have to say it doesn't do a thing for me, but each to their own!
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From:mofic
Date:January 24th, 2007 07:09 pm (UTC)

Re: here from metafandom

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It's certainly educational, but I don't know about subversive :)

Oh, I was off on a tangent, not talking about subversion any more. I was just musing on the extent to which slashfic (and other sexually explicit fanfic) reflects sexual desires of the readership and the extent to which it shapes it. I think probably both happen.
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From:mofic
Date:January 25th, 2007 03:09 pm (UTC)

Re: here from metafandom

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Hm, developing an interest in sex acts you hadn't heard of before seems to me to be just an inevitable result of having been given more information.

Yes, but I was talking about something quite different: people developing an interest in sex acts they'd heard of and rejected before, in things they'd either found unappealing to contemplate or - in some cases - had tried and really disliked. I think in those cases the erotic imagination is being affected by the fanfic in a very real sense.
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