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January 29th, 2007
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Some Further Thoughts on Realism in Slash

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From:mofic
Date:January 29th, 2007 09:16 pm (UTC)

Re: Bambi vs. Groomzilla

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But do you really think that means that those romantic courtship rituals were invented by gay men and for gay men, as you asserted? Have you seen this: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/08/fashion/08gay.html?ex=1170219600&en=53d31c3f02908462&ei=5070

I wonder if the results are similar in other jurisdictions (e.g. whether there are more women in same sex marriages in Canada than men). And there are lots of reasons for having ceremonies even in the absence of legal recognition - romance is only one reason. As to candle-lit dinners in gay ghettos or same-sex social dancing, I think they are just indicative of gay men and lesbians wanting the ability to do what other people do and some things we can only physically safely do in our own space. Yes, there are gay and lesbian swing dancers or tangoers (is that a word?) but there's also the Times Squares (gay square dancers) and gay Scrabble clubs and Front Runners and pretty much any other activity you can think of, organized for gay men and lesbians.
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From:executrix
Date:January 29th, 2007 10:14 pm (UTC)

Re: Bambi vs. Groomzilla

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I wouldn't exactly say that conventional romance tropes were invented by gay men for gay men, so much as that they're like vintners who export MOST of the wine but keep some.

Thanks for the article link, I hadn't seen it before. Girls certainly have a lot more wedding mythology than boys, and everybody varies in how much they want to go against dominant ideologies, including people who have same-sex partners.

Expressions of love are both idiosyncratic and influenced by both the wider culture and one's own subculture. I remember a 1970s reference to giving a brown leather bomber jacket to one's partner as "gay minks."
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