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So What Exactly Is Sex? In fiction and in real life - Mo's Journal
January 12th, 2008
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So What Exactly Is Sex? In fiction and in real life

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From:arclevel
Date:January 12th, 2008 11:27 pm (UTC)
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I gathered from glancing at another comment (I haven't read most of them) that some people would mark 'yes' for the "If A weren't married" questions because they think something *wouldn't* count as sex because it wasn't with his wife. I answered yes for the opposite reason. I listed masturbating in front of each other and phone sex as not having sex in general (or in fiction) because I would consider them just shy of that line, due to the lack of actual physical contact. For the married politicians (and people in similar public positions), I do consider those things to count because of the unambiguous sexual nature. To deny that those things are having sex seems less due to the nature of what was done and more as a way to draw a very artificial line to hide both that there was sexual activity involved (especially in the case of politicians with, trying to claim that they're nonetheless straight), and that it is clearly adultery. Kissing may still be adulterous, depending on the circumstances, but I don't consider it clearly sexual enough to count here.

For the final question, I would at least note that while I don't consider it necessary for either person to come to be considered sex, I wouldn't generally consider brief hand-genital contact to be sex, because I wouldn't really consider it to be masturbation. The exact location of that cut-off line varies widely depending on the situation (and requires the *least* contact to count if it isn't consensual).
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