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What I Learned From the "What is Sex?" Poll - Mo's Journal
January 15th, 2008
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What I Learned From the "What is Sex?" Poll

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From:telperion1
Date:January 17th, 2008 05:08 am (UTC)
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I missed the original poll, and found your results very interesting.

I was wondering whether there was any indication that acts that most resembled PVI for m/m and f/f were considered sex for them, but similar acts for m/f weren't.

For instance, I consider the following three acts sex:

--- for m/f, vaginal penetration by a penis
--- for m/m, anal sex
--- for f/f, vaginal penetration where one partner penetrates the other's vagina (for instance, using a finger or a dildo)

Interestingly, while I would consider anal sex for m/f to be sexy, I'm not sure I'd completely consider it sex. It would really depend on the circumstance.

And I am honestly not sure *why* I think that; it's just my gut instinct. I tend not to label if I can help it, but those are the three acts that I would 100% consider sex. I'd have to evaluate other acts based on intent and circumstance.
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From:mofic
Date:January 17th, 2008 11:30 am (UTC)
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I think you're onto something with some people looking at PVI as the norm and seeing what could most resemble it for other couples for whom it's not an option. I wonder if I had put specifically f/f with a strap on dildo if that would have gotten higher points than the more general "with an object." Interesting thought on how organizing it by comparison to PVI makes the same act "count" for a same sex pair that doesn't for a mixed sex pair.

One fallout of the taxonomy you espouse is bad slash :-). When writers look on m/m anal sex as "the act" because of its similarity in their minds to PVI, they tend to write it so it sounds more like PVI and less like what it is. I'd prefer that - in slash and in the world - we acknowledge sex acts for what they are and not view everything through PVI-tinted glasses.
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