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July 25th, 2008
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Some Thoughts on Fandom, Privacy, Money, and Other Stuff

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From:mofic
Date:July 26th, 2008 01:33 am (UTC)
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Hmm, maybe I'm more thinking about the advantages vs. disadvantages of merging IDs.

I didn't get that - although someone else in this thread did.

I don't really merge ids. I do like having a pseudonym (although I really wish I'd chosen a different one). I just don't hesitate to link my fannish activity to the rest of my life. I have the url for this journal in my email sig, for example (although with the proviso that it's mostly fannish - it sometimes gets people to ask me what "fannish" means).

It occurs to me that there are really two different questions here -

1. Are you reluctant to let people in fandom know your real name?

2. Are you reluctant to let people in your non-fannish life know about your fannish activities?

I think reluctance on #1 is often for fear that it would lead to people in the non-fannish life finding out about fannish activities, but there might be other reasons as well...

I'm interested in your reasons 1-3 at the bottom. Comments:

1. You're into Tiger Woods?!?!?! Seriously, I don't get frustrated by this. I feel like I spend a lot of my life explaining things about me - what I do for a living, how do lesbians have children, why lack of legal recognition of same sex marriage is bad for me and my family, etc. I'm pretty good at explanations and I'm willing to add fanfic - and slash - to the Things I Explain list. It's not frustrating to me, it just is.

2. I think there's a lot of interesting stuff to be learned from getting Great Minds to think and talk about fanfic in general and slash in particular. I'm with you there. The more people thinking about this the better.

3. The more talented people writing fanfic the better, too. What's "schoppy" btw?

I don't know that we need a public face to make these things happen, though. I'm not against it; I just see 2 and 3 as not dependent on that.
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From:wneleh
Date:July 26th, 2008 03:00 pm (UTC)
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I do like having a pseudonym (although I really wish I'd chosen a different one).

Heh, I think Mo and Mofic are great tags, mostly because you are so *not* a Mo! Very much in the way I'm not a citrus Cthulu.

1. You're into Tiger Woods?!?!?! Seriously, I don't get frustrated by this. I feel like I spend a lot of my life explaining things about me - what I do for a living, how do lesbians have children, why lack of legal recognition of same sex marriage is bad for me and my family, etc. I'm pretty good at explanations and I'm willing to add fanfic - and slash - to the Things I Explain list. It's not frustrating to me, it just is.

You didn't know about the Tiger Woods thing??? Well, I guess it doesn't come up much on LE, APW, or LJ. But I pretty much watch whenever he's playing, I go to the local PGA tournament, I subscribe to an email list of TW-related clippings, I've read biographies, I have calendars... And I find that my fanning of Tiger is pretty universally understood. I'm not, perhaps, the most typical example of a TW fan, and perhaps TW fandom isn't what people most expect of me, but I don't have to explain who he is, or what golf is, or that, no, I really don't wish his wife ill. The only thing that really puzzles people is that I don't play golf.

I don't have to explain most of the stuff you do, most of the time. I mean, if we're talking work, I draw pictures sometimes, but I don't have to explain what engineering *is.* I have occasionally explained how lesbians have children :-) and the legal implications of marriage (and family structure in general) inequalities (and thanks for writing about this, it's helped!)

RE: Schoppy - I mean schloppy. Smarm. The stuff I love to read most, though it's not precisely what I write, most of the time (my Home might be the best example of my own smarm.)

RE: The public face thing - I'm not thinking so much that we need 'poster children;' but as long as the public perception is that fanfic is a tween-teen thing, I don't see how it can get the kind of analysis I'm interested in, and (much of) the type of new involvement I hope for.
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From:mofic
Date:July 28th, 2008 02:02 pm (UTC)
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I don't remember ever hearing you talk about Tiger Woods, but I tend to tune out when people talk sports so I can't swear to it.

I agree that it would be good to have more adults in fandom in general and fanfic (both writing and critiquing) in particular. I don't know that the public face is where we'll get them, though. It can't *hurt* to have a more public presence (and I think that OTW is a good step along that way) but I think that adults in fandom will continue to join in the two ways they have been:

- they were teens or young adults in fandom and they grew up (like you)
- they stumbled across it and liked it as adults (like me)
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