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August 10th, 2008
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So, Unlike Most Everyone I Know
I didn't love The Dark Knight. There were things I loved about it, and I'm glad I saw it, but I didn't come out of it with a "Wow!" feeling and I don't feel a great urge to see it again. I probably will (because the kids want to see it in IMAX) but I wouldn't mind if I didn't.


Things I liked:

- Really well acted, all around. Heath Ledger was wonderful, but so was Christian Bale, Michael Caine, Morgan Freeman.
- The chase scenes were great, very exciting.
- Ditto for all the blowing things up scenes.

Things I didn't like:

- I felt it was probably about 30 minutes too long, that it should have been tighter.
- It was just too preposterous for me. I kept losing my willing suspension of disbelief. How could the Joker manage to plant explosives all over that hospital without anyone noticing? Ditto for all those flammable barrels of stuff in the hold of the ferries. Plus why wouldn't they evacuate the people off of the ferry (all of which have lifejackets) rather than just wait to be blown up? And really, the idea that the Joker recruited paranoid schizophrenics as his henchmen. Not exactly a population good at following complex, time-critical instructions.


I really like superhero movies when they feel very real. This one didn't to me. I liked Batman Begins a lot better.

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From:aurienne
Date:August 11th, 2008 02:20 am (UTC)
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I also wasn't keen on it -- just too much of a Scary Movie, and not enough of a Super Movie. You can blend lots of stuff and make it Super, but this just didn't have the magic and faith in itself. And the Bruce Wayne just seemed sorta stupid and not good at being rich.
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From:ringthebells
Date:August 11th, 2008 02:47 am (UTC)
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How could the Joker manage to plant explosives all over that hospital without anyone noticing?

Haha! That's exactly what my friend Cat and I were saying to each other as we walked out.

Though, actually I liked this one much better than Batman Begins. All I can even remember about Batman Begins now is that when I was watching it, the only scene I enjoyed was the one where Bruce needs to hastily evacuate everyone from his party without causing a panic, and he does it by going to the middle of the room and acting like a raging asshole. I thought that was pretty clever. But I disliked, and subsequently apparently completely blocked out of my mind, the rest of the movie! I don't know, maybe I was in a grumpy mood that day?
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From:mofic
Date:August 11th, 2008 10:48 am (UTC)
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Interesting on Batman Begins. I quite loved it.
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From:lilacsigil
Date:August 11th, 2008 07:09 am (UTC)
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I just saw it today, and this was pretty much my reaction - the Joker was far too competent and organised, the police were randomly disorganised then very organised. But a good hard edit would have made an okay-but-sloppy movie into a terrific movie.

Like you say, I have no problem with the Joker recruiting mentally ill people - I just can't see that people ill enough to go along with the Joker (apart from the actual gangsters) would be able to then follow instructions. I know that when I was seriously depressed, I couldn't plan several hours in advance!

The part with them not getting off the ferry was mentioned though - the instructions were that if anyone got off the boats they would all be blown up, and the Joker had line-of-sight from his building to the ferries. Now, if anyone can tell me what Gordon's last speech was, over that thumping music, I'll be happy!
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From:mofic
Date:August 11th, 2008 10:47 am (UTC)
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Aw, thanks for the clarification on why they didn't evacuate - somewhow I missed that. It still doesn't explain how he got all that stuff on the ferry :-).

I heard the speech, but didn't transcribe it. My friend also had trouble hearing it. Anyway, I found this and I think it sounds like about what he said:

"Because he's the hero that Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now...and so we'll hunt him...because he can take it...because he's not a hero...he's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...the Dark Knight"
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From:candrawest
Date:August 12th, 2008 01:03 pm (UTC)
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I thought it was a pleasant day at the movies with my daughter, but that was about it. I was glad that the story kept me interested enough not to be sad about it being Heath's last movie.

On the subject of movies, I seem to recall reading some comments by you about "I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry". The comments I vaguely recall were the reason I watched the movie, to see how much I agreed with them and to see what my impressions were of it. Having now seen this movie, I wanted to re-read them, but couldn't find them. If such comments exist, could you point me to them or email me with them? If not, I apologise for apparently mentally filing under your name just because it had to do with reactions to homosexuality.
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From:mofic
Date:August 12th, 2008 01:56 pm (UTC)
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I never heard of that movie, so it must have been someone else. Was it good? What's it about?
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From:candrawest
Date:August 12th, 2008 09:44 pm (UTC)
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No, it wasn't particularly good, in my estimation.

It's about a widowed firefighter who neglected to name his children as his beneficiaries after his wife died. He waited past the time limit permitted by the city/insurance company/whatever and finds out he can basically only change the beneficiary if he gets remarried. So he convinces his best friend to pose as his gay domestic partner so he can name the friend as beneficiary and trust him to look after the kids.

It's cliche-ridden and to me mildly offensive. I'm glad I rented it to see what the fuss was about, but I'm also very glad I didn't see it at the movies and contribute to its profit.
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From:mofic
Date:August 12th, 2008 10:42 pm (UTC)
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It sounds totally stupid. And completely out of touch with the law, too.
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